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the book called the road to hell was advertised in a national magazine in England as read David Parsons autobiography the Rotel but actually that book was a miracle I was going to Italy to speak at a conference and I had a big case with my clothes in and little brief black briefcase and inside the briefcase was the entire manuscript of the book the road to hell and I write all my books with a fountain pen and there was only one manuscript of it and when I got to the airport in Bologna it was midnight it was dark and the rain was pouring down and we went to the car park and the pastor meeting me said get into the car and I’ll put your luggage in the back of the car I think you called a bhoot they sorry ride the trunk that’s it so we got to his house an hour later and he opened the trunk and pulled out my case and then close the trunk I said just a minute there’s my briefcase no he said there was only the case and he hadn’t seen the black briefcase on the luggage trolley because it was so dark and wet but I said all my notes for the conference are in that briefcase and there’s a manuscript of a whole book called the road to hell in that briefcase we dashed back to the airport at 1:00 in the morning no sign of the briefcase no sign of the luggage trolley went to the Lost Property Office they hadn’t had it handed in we went to the police and said we’ve lost a briefcase and the police smile and said you lost a briefcase in Italy as much say that’s the last you’ll see of it well I was sleeping in a garage that night actually and I knelt down by a camp bed and said Lord you’ve given me a wonderful opportunity to find out if you want that book published I said if you want it published you’ll have to find it and bring it back because I’m not going to write it again and I said if you don’t want it published I don’t want it back the next day I drove a hundred miles to the Adriatic coast to her hotel where the conference was and I went for a lovely walk on the beach early morning and the dog joined me lovely friendly dog we had a lovely time together I came back to the hotel and a man walked up to me and put my briefcase in my hand and to this day we do not know who he was where he’d been that this is a hundred miles away the next morning and I opened it and all the manuscript was there but all the pages has been put into the wrong order and it took me about half an hour to put the pages in the right order but not a page was missing and that’s how that book came to be published so I’m sure that God wanted me to publish that book but it’s not a popular subject well there’s another book I’m talking about tonight and my problem is how to give you the whole book in an hour we’re going to have to put our running shoes on once saved always saved question mark there’s another book by the same publisher with the same title without the question mark and that’s by a good friend of mine called dr. Artie Kendall whom I’m sure some of you will have heard of but we differ on this point now what I’m going to teach you tonight comes straight out of last night I was talking about Grace and talking about saving grace but they’re not pointed out that there are two other views of grace one called Sovereign Grace one called free grace and one matter on which they both agree is one saved always saved but for entirely different reasons Sovereign Grace says grace is irresistible it will force you to be saved and it will force you to be kept and it will force you to the point where you are completely saved and you can do nothing about that God has decided he has chosen you and therefore you will be once saved always saved free grace also agrees to that free grace comes more from the dispensational school while sovereign grace comes from the Calvinists school or the reformed school but free grace also says when you come to Christ not only are all your past sins forgiven but all your future sins have forgiven too therefore nothing you can do can stop the process of salvation whatever you do it’s all already signed sealed and delivered but you are saved and I guess that my quarrel with that phrase is not only that it’s not in the Bible but I don’t agree with the first part of it that’s my problem I’m not one saved yet and therefore I’m not always saved yet one day I’m going to shout as loud as I can I’m once saved so I’m always saved but I can’t say it yet when my salvation is complete when my wife’s husband is perfect then I’m going to shout once saved always saved because the most important thing I’m going to repeat myself quite a bit here is what you think saved means and in my understanding it means to be free from all sin all sins and to be exactly what God meant me to be when he made me restored to the perfect image of God and since Christ is the perfect image of God it means when I’m actually like Jesus through and through and when we stand by side-by-side you won’t be able to tell the difference that’s the objective of salvation God wants to restore us and all that comes from the very beginning of creation because one of the questions that we need to ask is why did God make us and that’s a very important question and the answer is he already had one son and he enjoyed that so much that he wanted a bigger family I can’t explain more simply why God created you and me God wanted a bigger family like his son and until we’re like his son God can’t fully enjoy that family his own son was so trusting and obedient then when we are perfect in love – he can fully enjoy family life with us that’s why he made the world that’s why he made us to have a bigger family like his existing son and you can understand that parents who love their child usually want another like the first but that was God’s intention in creation when you go right to the end of history you find the other end of that purpose because you find that God’s intention is to make a brand new universe that will never know sin there will never be polluted that will never be spoiled by war he has written off this present universe and he’s going to make another one and therefore if he’s going to put people in it he must make them perfect before he does otherwise it’ll be the same as this one I had a story of a professor who invented a television set that you could tune into the future to see what was going to happen and he gathered people around for the first time to demonstrate his new TV and they asked him to switch ahead thirty years and he fiddled with the knob to thirty and the picture came and they all gasped the whole earth was devastated nothing but ash everywhere as far as the eye could see that clearly been a nuclear holocaust and everything had gone and the people there stared at this screen and then to their surprise the ash began to stir it and out from the ash came a little boy monkey and he looked around he said they’ve done it haven’t they and I’m the only bit of life left and he sat there looking very miserable and depressed when suddenly just a few metres away the ash stirred again and out came a little female monkey and the male monkey thought life’s not so bad and he went up to and took her by the pore and said but look what people have done to our world he said we’ll have nothing to eat and she said well I’ve got something I’ve managed to save something and she opened her pore and he was a little apple the male monkey looked at and he said don’t let’s begin that all over again but when we look ahead we see a new heaven and a new earth and new people to inhabit it people who will never spoil it place where there’s no sin and no temptation and everything can be enjoyed to the fool that’s God’s idea he meant the Garden of Eden to be like that but it got spoiled so quickly but he’s going to do it again but this time he’s prepared to take people who have spoiled this world and make them into creatures restored to his image and now perfect and able to look after his world properly that’s a great idea and that’s the future so whether we look at the beginning of creation or the future of a new creation we see God’s plan and purpose all the way through of having a larger family who will please him and with whom he can have real fellowship that’s God’s purpose and that’s why I want to underline again that salvation is a process which takes time it’s a process of taking old sinful people like us and making us into new people that’s because God loved us he could have said I’m going to wipe out this world and wipe out all the people in it and start again he once nearly did that and he could do that he once nearly did it in the days of Noah’s Flood and he wiped out that generation but he saved one family alas one of the first things Noah did when he got out of the ark was to get drunk and expose himself to his own son and the whole sad story started again it’s almost as if God said right that doesn’t work I’ll have a better plan than that and the plan was to save sinners and make them into Saints and then make the new world do you realize that creation is happening again but in reverse order in the first creation he made the heavens and the earth and then he put the people in it later this time around he’s making new people first and when he’s got enough new people ready he’ll make a new heaven and a new earth last its creation in Reverse we are now in the second week of creation but I’m going to say much more about that tomorrow morning but isn’t that an exciting thought God’s come back to work and he’s creating again and incidentally that’s one reason why we would worship on a Sunday and not on a Saturday the Jews worship on a Saturday to celebrate the finish of his old creation we worship on a Sunday to celebrate the beginning of a new creation but more of that tomorrow morning when our once saved always saved what does it mean to be one saved I’ve told you it means to be perfect means to be the people God wanted you to be and that’s going to take him time and take us time and the three stages of salvation are when we’re set free from the penalty of sin which we call justification when was set free from the power of sin which we call sanctification and when was set free from the possibility of sin and that’s called glorification and those are the three steps which God intends and all of them comprise salvation and you can’t say I’m one side until you reach all three and that’s when I’m going to shout and that’ll probably coincide with the Lord’s return to earth there’s a verse in Hebrews that says that he will appear a second time not to deal with sin but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him and I’m waiting for him and that’s future and I’m waiting for my say salvation I’m looking forward to being saved and that’s when I’m going to shout once saved always saved when the work is complete if you say it before then you think the works past when you use the verb save only in the past tense looking back and say I was saved then you’re talking as if it’s finished as if it’s all complete and I teach people never to say I was saved there and then but to say I began to be saved there and then and what a difference that makes you thinking when you say that I began to be saved in 1947 and yet it’s obvious to anyone who knows me that the it’s not complete yet particularly to my wife she knows I’m not there yet but she knows that I’m not what I was and I love the man who prayed Lord I’m not what I was sorry I’m not what I ought to be I’m not what I’m going to be but praise the Lord I’m not what I was and that’s where we all are I’m not what I ought to be yet I know what I’m going to be but praise the Lord I’m not what I was that’s the process of salvation that God is doing and he’s doing a good work in me and he will complete the work that he’s begun provided I cooperate with him you see the question before us tonight is can I interrupt the process of salvation can i delay it can I stop it altogether or as people generally ask can I lose my salvation well if you haven’t got it all yet you can’t lose it all but you’ve started being saved can you lose that or is it automatic inevitable that it will be completed notice that whenever the scripture talks about the process being completed there is an expression not of certainty but of confidence Paul writing to the Philippians says I am confident that the Lord who began a good work in you will complete it against that day and the letter to the Hebrews does the same thing after giving a solemn warning that those who go back cannot return because they cannot repent he then adds but I am confident that this won’t happen to you now that’s not saying I’m certain it won’t it’s saying I have high hopes that in your case the job will be completed and we need to notice that word confident it’s not the word Sidon its meaning I have high hopes that in your case it will be completed I thought tonight one of the things we should do is do a bit more Bible study and look at some of the passages which teach that the process of salvation can be interrupted and delayed and even stopped altogether so that it never is completed did you find that in your Bible well we’ll find it tonight and so I thought we’d look at passage after passage but do you know this and I’ll say this in my book there are 80 passages in the New Testament warning you not to allow the process to stop 80 separate passages every writer of the New Testament has a warning to Christians not to lose what they found in Christ that’s enough for me 80 and we’ll look we’re having time to look at all 80 but I’ve listed them in this book so you can look the love for yourself and those warning passages are really taught by preachers we love the texts that give us assurance of the future we love such taxes I am persuaded that neither death nor life nor Angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come nor height nor depth nor anything else can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus that’s at the end of Romans 8 and you’ll hear that quoted again and again but what preachers don’t point out is that there’s one thing missing from that list of things that can’t separate us from God’s love and that’s yourself did you ever notice and when Jesus said no one can snatch you from my hand he did not say that you can’t jump out of his hand and all those lists of things that cannot prevent us from staying God’s love don’t include yourself not one of them it’s a comfort to know that nothing else and no one else can stop the process of salvation but you can and that’s the serious thing that I’m teaching tonight because the scripture invariably balances up the picture and when there’s a verse like that it isn’t far away that you’ll find another verse that says something very different and one of the passages out of those 80 in the New Testament is in Romans 11 where it says and if you do not continue in God’s kindness you too will be cut off like many of the Jews were cut off and that’s only on the next page after that wonderful statement in Romans 8 now this is the problem with our Bible God didn’t put chapter and verse numbers in it and therefore you can’t if you have a bar without verses and chapter numbers did you know that what was one published you can now get the New International Version without chapter numbers and without verse numbers do I hear a hallelujah no don’t say because the preacher asked but none of you said hallelujah spontaneously there but there’s a Bible you can buy without chapter and verse numbers wouldn’t you like one well a friend of mine a professor of law in a university in Malibu in California his name is Lagarde Smith he produced that Bible with no chapter and verse numbers in it and I hope you’ll get a copy because you’ll have to know your Bible a bit better to find anything in the Bible you have to know the context and you have to read the context you can’t pick out the text as a kind of proof for a doctrine you have to take the text in its context and I have noticed in the Bible wherever there’s a verse that tells us that he is able to keep us there’s another verse that tells us we must keep ourselves what a balance take the little letter of Jude at the end of the letter of Jude it says God is able to keep you and present you faultless before his throne of majesty he’s able to but just three verses up from that wonderful promise there’s another verse that says keep yourselves in the love of God there’s the balance and if you only quote one of those two texts you’re unbalanced take Paul’s letter to Timothy his letters in one verse he says he is able to keep what I’ve committed to him but if you only read that verse you’ll not read the companion verse just about on the same page that says I have kept the faith keeping going is a cooperation between you and God he’s able to keep and you are to keep and this balance is everywhere in Scripture but if you only quote texts you come out with a one sided balance imbalance wherever we read about God’s keeping power you’ll find an exultation to keep yourself and as we keep ourselves in the love of God he keeps what we’ve committed to him that’s the balance that’s the whole truth and not a dangerous half truth so there’s a responsibility on us to go on cooperating with God to go on believing in him to go on responding to his kindness to go on to the end and endure and it’s those who endure to the end who are saved in other words to put it quite bluntly it’s not those who start the Christian life will get saved but those who finish in faith what a lesson that is and many many people start but they don’t finish and the New Testament is full of warnings to those who start and don’t finish faith is a continual relationship of trust and obedience and as long as we keep in the faith he will keep us well now let’s just look at one or two of the passages out of those 80 which say this kind of thing I’ve already mentioned Romans but let me start in the Gospels what about John 15 I am The True Vine that Jesus and my father is the gardener he cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit while every branch that does bear fruit he trims clean so that it will be even more fruitful you are already clean because of the word I’ve spoken to you and now he says remain in me and I will remain in you there’s the balance again you stay in me and I’ll stay in you but the underlying warning is if you don’t stay in me I won’t stay in you there it is so what will happen if we don’t remain no branch can bear fruit by itself it must remain in the vine neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me I am the vine you of the branches if a man remains in me and I in him he will bear much fruit apart from me you can do nothing and now the warning if anyone does not remain in me he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers such branches are picked up thrown into the fire and burned if you remain in me and my words remain in you ask whatever you wish and it will be given you this is to my father’s glory that you bear much fruit showing yourselves to be my disciples there it is very clear you remain you stay you live in me and I will remain in you and will produce fruit together can I say this very clearly eternal life is not in me it’s in Christ and if I stay in Christ I have eternal life but he didn’t give eternal life to me it’s still in him as John says somewhere else this life is in his son I don’t have eternal life in me but I do have it in Christ a branch doesn’t have life in itself the vine has the life and if the branch stays in the vine it’ll go on living but if the branch gets cut off it’ll die so I have eternal life in Christ I don’t have it in David portion and if I remain in Christ I go on having eternal life that’s what John 3:16 actually says for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever goes on believing in him will never perish but go on having eternal life there it is if you remain in Christ you have life but if you don’t you’ll die and the dead branches are gathered and thrown into the fire now that’s just one passage and that’s in the same gospel where you read Jesus saying I know my sheep and none will pluck them out of my hand but you need to balance it up with this passage and take the whole truth together the whole gospel tells you the whole truth let me now turn to romans i’ve already quoted that wonderful verse in all these things we are more than conquerors through through him who loved us for I’m convinced that neither death nor life neither Angels nor demons neither the present nor the future nor any powers neither height nor depth nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord wonderful promise but now turn just one page and let’s read chapter 11 in which Paul is talking to Gentile believers about the Jews and he points out that not all the Jews made it in fact out of two and a half million Jews who left Egypt – made it into the promised land and Paul in the letter to Corinthians says that’s a lesson for us to learn setting out from Egypt is only the beginning getting into Canaan was the end of his Redemption for them but most them never made it and he said that’s a warning to us it’s not setting out it’s getting in it’s not starting it’s finishing that is going to be the thing and so having talked about some of the Jews many of them who were cut out of God’s people one way or another he says in verse 19 verse 18 do not boast over those branches the Jews who were cut out if you do consider this you do not support the root but the root supports you you will say then branches were broken off so that I could be grand grafted in granted but they were broken off because of unbelief and you stand by faith don’t be arrogant but be afraid for if God did not spare the natural branches he will not spare you either consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God stillness to those who fell but kindness to you provided that you continue in his kindness otherwise you also will be cut off he’s talking about the Jews to the Gentile believers in Jesus and he said they were cut off but don’t let that make you arrogant or secure because God will deal with you in the same way he dealt with them he’s the same God and if you do not continue in his kindness you too will be cut off I don’t think you can twist those words around they can only have one message and it is that we are no more secure than the Jews were if we don’t continue trusting in God that’s the serious passage how often have you heard it quoted by preachers the big problem with all of us preachers is that we select the verses we preach them and we don’t preach on all of them we select those and if you’re not careful we select those that we know the people like to hear the comforting texts and we just keep the others a little bit quiet I believe that we should be preaching the whole Bible the whole Word of God the whole counsel of God in fact Paul said to the Ephesians when he left Ephesus you know how I’ve taught you I have declared to you the whole counsel of God the whole truth let’s turn the pages to Hebrews and I’m not going to read Hebrews 6 though that’s the passage that you may think I was going to read where it actually says that if you turn away from Christ after you have belonged to him there is no possible repentance there’s no way back I’ve been asked by some Christians how far do you have to backslide before you can’t come back I say that’s a dangerous question don’t even run the risk there was a rich lady in England advertised for a chauffeur to drive her Rolls Royce and she asked each applicant for the post how near could you drive to the cliff edge without the car going over and one applicant said well I would go about six feet from the edge another said I would go about three feet but one applicant said madam you are so valuable that I wouldn’t go near cliff edge and he got the job now that to ask how far do I have to backslide before I reach the point of no-return that’s someone playing with fire that’s someone saying how near can I get without going over the wrong question don’t go anywhere near that don’t backslide because it’s quite clear from Bible teaching that there is a point of no return I don’t know what that point is only God knows but don’t run the risk don’t even think about how far you have the backslide stay right there in Christ so I’m not reading chapter six though I have noted already that it finishes we want each of you sorry even though we speak like this dear friends we are confident of better things in your case and though he’s giving him a warning of the point of no return he says I’m confident not certain I’m confident that you won’t go anywhere near that point but God’s patience can run out and we need to remember that but I’m going to turn to chapter 10 where there is to me a far more serious warning though many people have not noticed it verse 26 if we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth no sacrifice for sins is left but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses how much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the Covenant that sanctified him and who has insulted the spirit of grace for we know Him who said it his mind to avenge I will repay and again the Lord will judge his people it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God and a versa to further he says so don’t throw away your confidence now that’s a serious word listen carefully if you deliberately keep on sinning after you’ve received the knowledge of the truth not even the cross of Christ is available for that he is echoing the Book of Leviticus all the sacrifices in Leviticus were for accidental sin unintended sin that you just fell into but didn’t intend to and then you brought a sacrifice for unintended sin but here we’re dealing with someone who quite deliberately knowing what they’re doing having the knowledge of the truth goes on living in the same way and therefore cutting themselves off from the efficacy of the cross that’s a serious warning let’s turn to one other passage and then perhaps we’ll break from our reading and look at some other matters turn to the second letter of Peter verse 20 of chapter 2 if they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome they are worse off at the end than there were at the beginning it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and then to turn their backs on it on the sacred commandment that was passed on to them of them the Proverbs are true a dog returns to its vomit and a sow that is washed goes back to wallowing in mud wonder if you ever had a sermon on that passage to say to someone if having escaped from the world by knowing Jesus as your Savior you then go back to the old way of life you are worse off than if you had never known the way of salvation now if backsliding simply robbed you of your reward in heaven but you were still able to go there then frankly you’re not worse off than you were before but this is saying you are worse off to a start of the Christian life and escape from the world and then go back into it you are worse off because you are more responsible now you have known the way of salvation and now you’ve turned you back on it and you knew what it did for you that’s a very serious warning and one that we should note in Holy Scripture it’s God’s Word and therefore people who have started and known the Liberty in Christ the freedom from sin the D offered and then go back it’s characteristics of dogs when they’re sick that they go back and lick up the sick and I know what pig farmers alike I know what pigs are like given the right care of pigs they’re one of the cleanest animals on the farm but not given the right care they just love to go back and when you’ve wash them clean perhaps for a Agricultural Show and they look beautiful pink and nice put them anywhere near some mud and they go right back into it and Peter here says you’re worse off than if you’d ever not known which doesn’t mean you’re still going to heaven but we’ll lose a bit bit of reward means you’re not going to heaven you’ve known the freedom that Christ can bring and now you’ve turned you back on it now I could take you to 80 passages in the New Testament like those I’ve read to you 80 and one passage from every writer of the New Testament has a warning in it like that somewhere and if you read the Gospels Jesus had that warning more than once when he told the parable of the sower he said it’s possible to receive the word of the kingdom and for it to begin to grow in you and then for it to be choked by the cares of this world warning after warning in Scripture which we ignore at our peril David are you trying to make us scared yes because the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the New Testament doesn’t leave the fear of the Lord behind in the old it’s there in the new as well again and again feel the Lord what is there to fear from the Lord the answer is hell when I wrote that book on Hell I say in that book I fear hell I’m not one of those preachers as say you unbelievers are all going to hell but I’m going to have blow you jack I’m alright I cannot preach like that I can only preach on hell because I fear going there myself I fear as Paul said lest having preached to others I should be cast away myself it’s a very healthy fear when we brought up three children we wanted to teach them fear of the healthy kind not phobia a phobia is when fear paralyzes you and so dominates you that you can’t move can’t do anything but we wanted our three children to be afraid of the traffic on the roads we wanted them to have a healthy fear and we didn’t give them bicycles until they had that healthy fear of traffic and one of our daughters was involved in a very bad accident she escaped but the others didn’t but we taught them to have a healthy fear a fear of dirt a fear of infection but a healthy fear it becomes a phobia if your children don’t ride their bicycles on the road but a healthy fear and they can go and you taught your children healthy fear and the Bible does there’s a healthy fear of the Lord and it’s related to the fear of his judgement the fear of final rejection that’s a healthy fear and we need more it the one thing I miss in so many churches I go to is the fear of the Lord there’s a kind of Paulina swith God that is very disturbing I think I’ve told you the one young man said to me we worship God Almighty in our church and I’m afraid that summarizes quite a lot of worship as if were partying with God and just he’s a great guy and we’re having great fun with him it is a fearful thing said the author of Hebrews to fall into the hands of a living God and I’ve had preacher after preacher twist that verse and say it’s a fearful thing to fall out of the hands of the Living God that may be true but in that verse it says it’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God occasionally I have preached in churches where people have trembled in the presence of God and one group of Christians who did tremble before God were called the Quakers because they literally shook in their meetings as they realized that God Almighty was there they’re now called a society of friends what Quakers gone out of use but it was the early Quakers from where I lived in Buckinghamshire England who came out and established Pennsylvania the man called Penn from a village next to where we lived in England who came out and brought Quakerism to one of your Northeast States William Penn Pennsylvania and he was a Quaker he belonged to a people who were so aware of the presence of God Paul says work out your salvation with fear and trembling because God is working in you when did you last see someone working out their salvation in fear and trembling because they realized Almighty God was doing something in them well I’m just throwing this out I know I’m emphasizing one side of things but it’s the side that’s been neglected because it’s the side that people don’t want to hear about and I promised the Lord when I began to preach Lord I want to give people what they need to hear not what they want to hear because I care for the people I speak to I want to give you what you need to hear and these are things you need to hear now of course this raises a lot of questions in people’s mind one of those questions is the question of assurance so let me deal with that do you mean David that we can’t be sure a Salvation that we can’t be sure of God’s love do you mean we have to wake up every morning wondering whether we’re still in or out no that’s not ik I don’t wake up every morning am I savor I’m an otter am I going to be saved or am I not God wants us to be sure of him of his purpose in you and the New Testament is full of assuring promises to give you an assurance but many Christians that I told to are basing their assurance on the wrong thing they want a written guarantee in the Word of God that will give them assurance you see many people don’t want to be saved but they do want to be safe you know what I mean by that they’re taking they’re coming into faith as if they’re taking out a life insurance policy they’ve been told if you die tonight will you be in heaven or hell and they don’t want to be in hell so they take out a life insurance policy and they’re assured from the Bible that they’re safe you’re not safe till you get there but you can be sure that you’re going because our assurance is not based on the promises of Scripture because the early Christians didn’t have the scripture they didn’t have the New Testament so they didn’t base their assurance on the scripture the assurance is based on the spirit not the scripture but on the spirit and it’s the Spirit Himself who bears witness that we are the sons of God and while we walk in the spirit we shall be sure where we’re going as soon as you’re not walking in the spirit and start walking your own way you will lose your assurance that’s how you know when you’re getting out of guns away but as long as you’re in the way of salvation and the Spirit is leading you you will have a witness in your spirit that you are on the way to heaven and that as you keep on the way is bound to get you there I’m putting that in a very simple manner it’s as if the sat-nav is telling you you’re on the right Road just keep on this road and you’re certain to arrive that’s the kind of assurance the Bible gives you and it’s an assurance from the Holy Spirit he is the source of my assurance and if I grieve the spirit the first thing that goes is my sureness my assurance that I’m on the right way that’s my understanding of assurance and the witness of the Spirit will be borne out by the witness of my conscience if you read John’s letter you’ll find it’s full of this phrase that you may know that you may know and he points to the spirit first how do we know because he has given us his spirit there it is and how do we know because our conscience is witnessing that we’re living a new life and the two witnesses of the Spirit within us and the conscience in us is going to make us very very sure I’m on the way to heaven that’s my understanding of assurance not the kind of deduction from a text that says the Bible says so I believe it that settles it that’s not a guarantee it’s not the assurance that were offered there is no absolute guarantee that you will make it but you can still be very sure that you’re on the way of salvation that leads to heaven so that’s one question I as get asked when I talk about being saved and being sure that you’re being name notice I don’t say we are sure that we have been saved but we are sure we are being saved we know within our hearts from conscience and the spirit within us I’m on the way and I will get there if I keep on this way it’s that little word if underlined that in your Bible every text that puts an if in it for example at the beginning of 1 Corinthians 15 we find Paul outlining the essentials of the Christian faith and there are three and he says the death of Christ the burial of Christ which we’ll talk about tomorrow morning and the resurrection of Christ which will begin to talk about tomorrow morning these are the three fundamentals of the faith and he says this is the gospel I preached to you which you received and on which you have taken your stand by this gospel you are being saved if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you that’s one of the if verses and I could quote so many more that have that little word if in there’s an if and it’s always followed by an exhortation to hang on to hold firmly to press on you’re in a race and it’s no good saying I’ve started the race so I’ll guarantee I’ll finish it no you press on to the end of the race and you reach the end of the race and that’s what Jesus did even when the worst happened to Jesus he pressed on in spite of the shame that he was subject to he pressed on and he came through and he finished and he was able to say on the cross it’s finished I was given a prophecy many years ago when I was very uncertain about the future it was about 1980 I was the minister of a successful quote Church in England and things were going very well and I knew that the church needed to move forward into the 80s but I couldn’t see my own place in it and so I went away on a retreat with about a hundred pastors and I said Lord will you please tell me this week whether I am to go on leading this church or whether you have something else for me to do and there I was normally a pastor in that situation having built new premises and fill them and got everything going would want to stay there the rest of his life but I wanted to do what the Lord wanted and one of the speakers in that retreat when he finished talking to us said I have a word from the Lord for four men here I don’t know who they are but you will know whether you’re one of the men that God wants to speak to and he proceeded to give three words from the Lord not one of which made any sense to me and then he said my son you have ministered to the extent of your gift in the place where I certainly put you and you are no longer bound to stay in that place I set the land before you but one thing I require of you that you surrender all the remains to be done in that church into my hands for it is my church not yours and that prophecy when every word to my heart and he finished by saying and I want you to go out and so serve me that one day you will be able to look into my face and say Lord we did it lovely boy and I took a recording of it home to the elders of the church and I said I’m submitting that to you I believe it was for me but you got away and judge it I’m not going to respond to that unless you confirm it and the elders came back to me and said we believe that of the Lord will let you go and I went out into the unknown and yet within two years I’d spoken in two hundred cities and towns in Britain and I’ve been traveling ever since I’m a tramp for the Lord but that’s been going on and Here I am I believe I’m here in God’s will and I tell you this it’s not boring serving the Lord but it’s very tiring but I believe I’m doing what God wanted me to do how do I get on to that I’ll have to go back to where I was the other question I’ve been often meanest one is about how can you be sure how can you have assurance under what you’re teaching and I’ve said I believe you can but it’s not the kind of written guarantee people want but it’s an inward assurance from the Holy Spirit in your conscience that you’re on the right track that leads to heaven and if you stay on that track you’ll make it you’ll get there the other question I get asked about is the question of predestination now it’s a word in Scripture I believe in the predestination of God but people say if God has predestined something for you surely it’s bound to happen no I believe that’s a misunderstanding of the word predestination treating that word as if it’s the same as predetermination that’s a very different word unfortunately most people don’t see the difference to predetermine something is to make it happen to force it to have it’s bound to happen if it’s predetermined but God doesn’t predetermine he predestined what is predestination it is preparing a destiny for someone and I can give you a very simple illustration I grew up with an ambition to be a farmer and when I left school at 16 I went onto the farm and worked on the farm you may not believe it but I used to get up at 4:00 in the morning to milk 90 cows I couldn’t do it now but that’s where I got my complexion working in the open air now mention that because on Friday night I’m going to talk about a girl who worked in the open air and got a similar complexion but there you are that’s a clue guess what I’m going to preach about don’t tell me now well now I enjoyed working on the farm and I thought where will this career lead one day my father called me into his study for he was a professor of Agriculture in the university and he said David I know you’ve wanted to be a farmer and I’m sharing this with you now that when you’re 21 I’ve arranged for you to rent a farm for yourself and I was terribly grateful to him for thinking of that but I said I’m sorry I can’t do that because a few weeks ago my Heavenly Father told me to be a preacher and it had happened in this way I was already preaching but not in churches in the over there down at the beach outside cinema cues wherever people gathered and my pulpit was an American Jeep an old army jeep and I would park this Jeep and stand up in the back and preach I just wanted the world to know about Jesus and so it came to the point one morning I said Lord if you tell me by 12 o’clock today which you want me to be preacher or farmer I’ll be what you want me to be and all my forebears had been preachers or farmers or both right back to John Wesley but I said tell me by midday today and I’ll do what you want that’s the kind of guidance I have found to be so useful and I don’t do anything unless God clearly tells me it’s his responsibility to guide me it’s not my responsibility to try and read his mind that’s my thinking about guidance and I’ve told the Lord if you will tell me clearly what you want me to do I’ll do it if you tell me clearly where to go I’ll go there if you tell me clearly what to say I’ll say it but you’re my boss and you’ve got to tell me and then you know I’ll do it and I’ve kept my side of the bargain and he’s kept his and it’s his responsibility which of you going in to work on the Monday morning would have a boss coming to you and saying guess what I want you to do today know if the boss wants you to do something on Monday morning he’ll come and tell you and if he doesn’t come and tell you you assume that he wants you to do on Monday what you did on Friday and to carry on where you are now that’s my thinking about guidance don’t move unless the Lord tells you clearly carry on doing what you’re doing until he clearly says change of job change of location whatever I found that’s important too many Christians put themselves in a case where in the place where they’ve got to have guides and got to do something and got to find it somehow twisting God’s arm until he tells them what he wants them to do don’t change anything until he tells you to and then change and it works beautifully but if you get impatient and drop your job or leave the place where you are and then try and find something else that the Lord wants you to do you’re in trouble don’t move until the Lord says move so that morning I said Lord if you want me to be a preacher or a farmer or even both tell me by midday today at 10:30 I’m having coffee with a friend who is also working on the farm and he looked at me and he said David you won’t finish up behind the plow er you’ll finish up in a pulpit now said Lord that’s not clear enough and I left my friend went out into the street a street in the city of Newcastle in the northeast of England and I could take you almost of the very stone on which I was standing when I met a retired Methodist minister whom I hadn’t seen for years and years and I said to mr. Scott it lovely to see you again how are you I needed Nancy just a David why aren’t you in the ministry I said that clear enough Lord and so I never got the farm that my father had prepared for me but if I had taken that farm I could always have said My father predestined me to be a farmer here do you understand what I’m saying he didn’t predetermine it and I in fact said no but had I said yes I could have talked about predestination what my father decided beforehand should be my destiny and that’s what predestination means it doesn’t mean that God treats me like a puppet and predetermines me to do that but when I accept his plan and it’s a much better plan than mine when I accept his plan I can say he predestined he prepared the plan I’ve accepted it and I now know that long before I accepted it he planned it all and as I look back over my life I’m not proud of many things I have regrets but his plan for me has been absolutely right and he predestined me for that he had the plan long before I knew it but at the age of 17 I submitted to that plan and said okay Lord I’ll do what you want and I have no regrets about that in fact I wouldn’t change places with anybody and it’s lovely to reach the end of your life and realize that you did keep to the plan God had for you and he tailors the plan to each person and I can see that even before I accepted his plan he was preparing me for it as a young farmer we had what we called young farmers club and they had speaking competitions and I began to learn to speak in public before I became a Christian and God was using the Young Farmers Club debates to prepare me to speak clearly and convincingly and I can see he had the plan and he was preparing me for the plan and the plan for me that’s predestination and I love it but it’s not predetermination he didn’t force me to do it I could have resisted it I could have said no to my heavenly father and yes to my earthly father and I’d be a farmer milking cows right now I have no regrets because farming has become a real problem activity in our country and many farmers are committing suicide because they’re finding it difficult to make a living so I don’t regret it for that reason I regret not being a thumb because I loved it I enjoyed it but I still wouldn’t go back and make any other decision so predestination fits in as well well I think I must be drawing things to a close the fear of the Lord is part of our walk with God one day when we’re perfect in love all fear will go there’ll be no need for it perfect love casts out fear but as long as you love is imperfect there’s a healthy fear of not making it and that doesn’t make me neurotic I don’t get up every morning wondering if I’m a Christian but I know if I get out of that way of God and my assurance begins to go thank you Lord for warning me I’ll get back on the road quickly and that’s why John Bunyan wrote a book called pilgrims progress and he saw the Christian life ‘as away as a road and people began on that road and slipped off it and when pilgrim and have you read pilgrims progress I hope you will because when he gets to the River Jordan at the end of the road and he sees the heavenly City in the distance and he realizes that all he needs do is cross that River he has a friend with him and that friend looks at the river rather than the city and he says that rivers deep and it’s dark and it’s dangerous I don’t like to try crossing it and the friend turns to the left and there’s a path leading away and the friend leaves pilgrim and goes down the path and John Bunyan writes this I saw then that there is a road to hell even from the gates of heaven and that’s where I got the title of my book the road to Hell even at the end of your pilgrimage you could still get off the road and perhaps when you get to my age you have to be doubly careful not to let things go and get off that road but to finish triumphantly now my favorite hymn writer is Charles Wesley his hymns are full of Scripture in an eight line verse you can have sixteen verses of Scripture mentioned he was soaked in the Bible and he had a great gift of poetry and somebody once told me if you can’t find a hymn of Charles Wesley for them to sing after you’ve preached you have to as should I have preached on that because he covered the whole Bible in 6,000 wonderful songs and we’ve lost most of them but there’s one quite short song he wrote and I want to read it to you now to prove that I’ve been preaching the right stuff because he wrote a hymn for it and here’s the hymn our Lord with trembling I confess a gracious soul may fall from grace the salt may lose its seasoning power and never never find it more lest that my fearful case should be each moment knit my soul to thee and lead me to the mount above through the low veil of humble love lovely well that’s my message I’m afraid the vast majority of evangelical preachers would not preach what I’ve said tonight don’t believe it because I’ve said it don’t go away and saying do you know what David Paulson says don’t you dare use my name go home go home study the Word of God get into your Bible and find out whether what I’ve told you is there and then go and tell people what the Bible says what the Word of God says you

Reader Comments

  1. The gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4 That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures.

    Galatians 1:7-9 Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel than that we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    This man is preaching another gospel. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.

    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, and we all sin, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Matthew 7:15-23 Many will come to you in sheep's clothing preaching bad fruit. They tell you, you can save yourself by works instead of grace. Romans 11:6 They preach another gospel. Jesus tells them to depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Not I did know you and now I don't, I never knew you. They did not do the will of the Father. John 6:40.

    Romans 4:5 But to the one that worketh not, but believeth on Him who justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

    John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me, will come to me, and all that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise Him up on the last day.

    John 6:47 Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.

    Galatians 2:21 I do not void the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, (everybody) that He gave His only begotten SON, (Jesus) that WHOSOEVER, (anybody) that believeth in Him, should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus said it, I believe it, and that settles it.

    John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Hebrews 13:5 He hath said, I will never leave you or forsake you.

    This man refutes the whole gospel of John. Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also after ye believed were SEALED by that Holy Spirit of promise.

    Second Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, the foundation of God standeth sure, having this SEAL, the lord knoweth them that are His; and, and let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

    Calvinism, Arminianism, and Lordship salvation are doctrines made up by men who never understood the bible in the first place. Tlhey do not have the Holy Spirit in them and can not discern scripture. First Corinthians 2:14 The word of God is foolishness to them because it is only discerned by the Holy Spirit.

    Any gospel that is preached that is not eternal life, is a false gospel. John 6:47 John 3:36 All believers have eternal life. All unbelievers are under the wrath of God because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God

    First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye MAY KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

  2. This is what I said and exactly how I said it. Only you can jump out of the hand of God. He never leaves us… We choose to leave Him

  3. He has made us perfect in the spirit…u are confusing the flesh with the new spirit….
    We are now spirit and perfect…
    In this life it's a matter of learning to walk in the spirit and not let the flesh have dominion.

  4. Salvation is not a process…it is a one time eternal act..Paws on is confusing the lost flesh with the Spirit a new

  5. Pawsons a freemason and Jesuit plant…buy my my book.

    Did the apostle s..need Pawsons book..ER. .no…do I need he need to sell it…ER. .yes.



  6. Just a word on Pawsons stupid book..

    All things shall pass away….
    But my word will never pass away.
    ER. …who said that!

  7. Look at the comments here, I begin to understand that David Pawson must be telling the truth. He has offended so many people by doing the right thing. He is a good bible teacher. Jesus has warned us that many times we could fall from grace.

  8. I never understood the once saved always saved idea because it doesn’t make sense. The Bible, a lot of the time, encourages believers to persevere, to overcome, to not give up, to continually have faith, to press on UNTIL Jesus’ return. Why do we need to do all of this if we are already saved? I thought it was a process that we have to continue until we reach the finish line which is jesus’ return. Anyway, I never heard of once saved always saved until last year and when I looked in to this doctrine it didn’t make sense to me.

  9. If you listen to people with NDE some have come to say many so called Christians are in hell. Jesus already told us we will be surprised who we will see in heaven or in hell. I believe in Christ but I can't say I live my life fully pleasing the Lord. I do lots of wrongs and I'm afraid where I'll end up. I'm sure we will all receive our just desserts according to our works.

  10. Heretical teaching. All people who believe they can lose their salvation if you really examine what they believe they believe that works save them.

  11. Obedience to God is the best way to show that you believe in Him. To teach that one is saved forever simply by believing and accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior is certainly a heresy. Satan himself believes in that and he is definitely not saved!! Believing in Jesus is not simply believing about him being the Lord and Savior but it is believing in His words. And if you really believe in His words and recognize Him truly as Lord of your life, then you will obey.

  12. He is false, he should have read the parable of the Seeds and the Sower. If you end up in hell, you never had a true conversion, see 1 John 5:4.

    Most people who claim to accepted him have not truly accepted him

  13. “Also I say to you, whoever confesses Me before men, him the Son of Man also will confess before the angels of God. But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.
    Luke 12:8-9 – NKJV

    To confirm our salvation we must 1) confess Jesus before other people, in public; 2) walk in love.

    Loss of our salvation can only be done by publicly denying Jesus.

    But remember: God knows our hearts and knows if we are confessing Jesus in public while denying His Lordship in private, in our heart: I.e. lip service.

    Our love for God, Jesus, Holy Spirit should compel us to daily, loving devotion & obedience to Them, love for our fellow man, and love for the lost.

  14. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    John 13:35 NKJV

    (Not by works or human efforts.)

  15. Hi children this is why Jesus Hate STRIFT back and forth words with no profit those who are save are those who first Repent and then ask for Forgiveness and now they can walk with a Upright heart for the works of the Lords Amen🙏 Read Romans 10:9

  16. Les Feldick states that if a person loses his salvation it is because he never fully received and believed Paul's Gospel of Grace and the Holy Spirit.

  17. Question? Was Jesus, Jesus in the Eternal past or was the second person of the trinity always a son of God or did He only become a son in Mary’s womb? If so, then the “Trinity” only began in the New Testament? I’m asking that because of your belief in your believe of God wanting a family because Jesus was His son.
    What about the different stages of development of a believer: from baby to full grown sons. The process is different with different believers.
    What about the Bema judgement seat of Christ which is for believers only not unbelievers whose judgement will be at the great white throne judgement?

  18. Sounds like we have to produce an equal amount of human effort to God in order to be saved. Then Jesus didn’t have to die for us on the Cross of Calvary. All what you are teaching makes the work on the cross has no effect! We have become our own saviors!

  19. In my live I have received many miracles, miracles you would be astonished if I would tell all of them. – Like the salvation of my very christian father and parttime preacher, who at age 60 was for a short time dead and saw into haeven. But to his horrer he could not enter, although he had accepted Jesus as his saviour about 40 years ago. and Gods voice told him, that he could not enter haeven and would go to hell unless he was fully sanctified and made holy by his son, the Lord Jesus. He was give the chance to come back and live a sanctified life, a life in purity with Jesus his savior for the rest of his life, which ended 6 month later.
    My heart rejoiced, my God had exhuased my longtime payers and would contune to do so.
    When asking my father about my mother, his ex-wife, about forgiving each other. He said he had done so but that there was no way to talk to my mother. Indeed my mother was not ready to talk nor to forgive my father. Each time a saw my mother I told her that she would not go to see Jesus unless her heart was free of all the hatered and she had forvigen my father.
    On day she called me and told me a wounderfull story. She had been reading in bed and got half asleep, when in a dream she was sitting on bench in a beautifull garden of a hospital. Allong the path she saw a man walking towards her and she recognised her ex-husband, my father. In front of her he knelt down and ask her for forgiveness. She accepted and forgave him. – Now she is in haeven too!!!

  20. The gift of God is eternal life.
    Believe on JESUS CHRIST
    For Eternal Life.
    It's a Done Deal.

    Salvation is a Work of God for man, Rather than a Work of Man for God. Jesus Christ paid it all.
    Simply Believe. Acts 16:31

  21. You foolish people! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes are the testimonies that Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.

    Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”
    The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”

    Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.

    I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?

    After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain?

    So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard?
    So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”
    Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.

    When the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship

    Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.

    But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces?
    Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?

  22. I am 75 yrs. old I spent my born again life in DENOMINATIONS teaching an ARMINIAN gospel The lay people were/are unaware. In reality, the antigospel is being taught. Even now, worse then ever.I came across this on one of these book sights. I will leave a link. It is one that you can read the sample pages. He has one also called the antigospel. As soon as I read them, I ordered them. I promote them. Here is link for anyone interested.

  23. I am so pleased that having it all perfect is not needed for salvation, He died because of my weakness, we try to get it right, but we all fall short.

  24. John 3:36 He that BELIEVETH on the Son HATH EVERLASITNG LIFE; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:18 He that believeth on Him, is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    John 1:12 But as many as received Him to them gave He power to become the children of God, EVEN TO THEM THAT BELEIVE ON HIS NAME.

    The gospel, First Corinthians 15:3-4 That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. You have to believe He did it for you and you will be saved.

    Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also after ye believed, ye were sealed by that Holy Spirit of promise. Born again, born of God. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

    Are you trusting in what you do to save you, or have you trusted in what Jesus did to save you. You can not save yourself. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

    First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

    If you do not have eternal life now, you are an unbeliever and are not saved. All those who have trusted Jesus as their savior, are saved and have eternal life. Second Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, the foundation of God is sure, having this seal, (the Holy Spirit) the Lord knoweth them that are His. Those that have trusted Jesus have eternal life. You can not lose eternal life, or it would not be eternal.

  25. Man, Calvinists must have never listened or read anything by David Pawson (what's the meme for hands-over-ears-shouting-nah-nah-nah-nah?). This makes perfect sense even without the very clear evidence… either you can reject salvation or you cannot – if you can reject it outright you can certainly reject it anytime after as well.

  26. I wish you had read all my comments before you respond!


    How About The Thief on the Coss?

    In short, the thief on the cross could not be saved through the process of salvation because our salvation was not yet paid for because the same Jesus was still alive so Jesus could not possibly make that happen out of a provision he had not yet made.

    Therefore, Jesus had to use a different method to save that particular soul. Saving a soul was Jesus peragative because he was The Savior of the World. However, so that was his job AFTER he died and completed the Plan of Salvation, by defeating the grave, death, and hell, we can now defeat that system because what he did in his victory is to make it possible for us to defeat that system BY HIM and BECAUSE OF HIM. So the process of salvation with Baptism as the second step, as I had written, is now what is OFFICIAL. Jesus is God, he can do anything but he is not disorderly, HE PROVIDE A PROCESS that every man needs to follow.

    The difference between us and the thief is that the thief had an opportunity to meet Jesus in person while he was on earth. WE DONT. So what he did with the thief was what he did with te thief. All of us need to Be Baptized now because that is what he said we need to do.

    When you go into a corporate business and you have an issue, you dont ask for the owner , who o is now in another state because he put a manager there to handle his business. Therefore, the manager have procedures to follow and those procedures will address every situation. We do not speak to God directly, we do that through the Holy Ghost, who also come to teach us all things. Heaven is a place of order, it is not a democracy. You dont get to vote on procedures you simply follow them. It is clearly given what the procedures for salvation is, so why would you go trying to invent your own rules, and doing so without the authorization of the Holy Ghost. One thing about the Holy Ghost, you either got it or you dont. If you dont, dont post videos, because you will end up in hell for promoting false doctrines

  27. I would rather live life as if i was being saved and be wrong about that view, than to asume nothing i do can hinder me from heaven, and be wrong about that. Those who truly love God seek to do his word.

  28. Read Jesus' letter to the church in Sardis, names written in the book of life could be kept or blotted. True faith includes action as part of the faith, see James 2. People who go on believing and obeying Christ are those who are in Christ, read the new testament. There is no point arguing, we ought to face the scripture with honesty and ask Jesus for the answer. Winning an argument here proving you are already saved means nothing, if one day you find yourselves shut off from the door by God then it's too late to realize.

  29. (1) Man is dead in sin and cannot come to God in and of himself; (2) God has chosen a
    people to become His children from before the foundation of the world,
    not based on their deeds but upon His grace and purpose; (3) Christ died
    for the elect of God exclusively accomplishing redemption for them all;
    (4) The Holy Spirit will bring each and every one whom God has chosen
    and for whom Christ died to a saving knowledge of the Gospel; (5) And
    none whom God has chosen, for whom Christ died and who have been called
    by the Holy Spirit and had the Gospel savingly revealed to them, will
    ever perish for they have been given ETERNAL life.

  30. I have found, through my many hours of study, debate and discussion, most of professing Christianity will PROBABLY NOT be going to heaven when they die.

    This is quite simply, extremely disturbing. We are talking about spending eternity in a LITERAL Lake of Fire. Think about that for a few seconds. EVERYONE who has NEVER believed in the gospel ALONE, that you know, is going to spend FOREVER in a lake of fire. There is no escape. There is no hope of getting out. They will be there FOREVER. This is pretty sad when one considers salvation from hell was FREE, a GIFT. Why does anyone go to hell? I can really only come up with two answers to this question.

    1. Most don’t believe Jesus died for their sins. They don’t believe Jesus did this for them. (This includes most people.) They do not accept the payment He made on the cross.
    2. Most don’t believe Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross was good enough. (This includes most of professing
    Christianity). They do not accept that His payment was sufficient.
    Everyone falls into one of these two categories.

    Although everyone going to hell falls under the first, I thought it a good idea to add the second when talking about the religious. The religious will always add to the cross. Whether they are adding sacraments, works, church affiliation, the law (repent of sins) or themselves to the plan of salvation, their mantra will always be “DO” to go to heaven. However, Jesus says “done”. He did all the work necessary for everyone’s salvation. One simply needs to believe, trust, put confidence in, who Jesus was (God’s only Son; God in the flesh) and what He did on the cross (Jesus died for YOUR sins and rose again). That’s it! It is that simple. Does the KING JAMES VERSION call it simple? Yes, it does. “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the SIMPLICITY that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him” (2 Cor 11:3, 4). There is NO other Jesus and there is NO other gospel.

    Religion has a way of getting people to put faith in
    works and the law to go to heaven. But, Jesus wants you to put 100% of your faith IN HIM. When you do, He promised NEVER to cast you out, NEVER to lose you; and NOTHING will pluck you from His hand.

    IF you have trusted in the gospel of Jesus alone for salvation, you are going to heaven. But maybe, you have gotten caught up in “religion”. Maybe, you have become one of the “religious”. This same thing happened to the Galatians. I have heard the term “Galatianism”. Religion infected the church of Galatia by removing them from the gospel. IF you have trusted in the gospel of Jesus alone for salvation, you are going to heaven.

    Heb 10:35–Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompense of REWARD.

  31. If we could save our selves by how we live and what we do, then Jesus died if vain. This man does not believe the gospel. First Corinthians 15:3-4 That Christ died for our sin, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again in the third day, according to the scriptures.

    First John 2:2 And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. But only those who believe are justified. Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him who justifieth the ungodly, (all of us) his faith is counted for righteousness.

    When we believe that gospel, we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. Ephesians 1:13 Born again, born of God. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

    Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. We have nothing to boast in because we did nothing for it. Jesus paid it all and we paid 0.

    Salvation is a free gift from God. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith, and not by the deeds of the law. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, and we all sin, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we are deceived and the truth is not in us.

    Matthew 7:21-23 Many will come before me on that day and call me Lord, and tell me about all their good works. They prophesied in my name, and cast out demons in my name, and did many wonderful works in my name. But Jesus says, depart from me I never knew you, not I did know you and now I don't, I never knew you.

    Jesus tells us why in verse 21. They never did the will of HIs Father. What is the will of HIs Father? John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and believeth in Him, may have ETERNAL LIFE, and I will raise Him up on the last day.

    This man has not trusted Jesus as His savior, he is trusting in what he does to save himself. He is trusting in his own works.

    First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know ye have ETERNAL LIFE. This man does not believe the gospel and is not saved. No one has ever lost eternal life. Those that believe you can lose eternal life are trusting in what they do to save themselves and believe that Jesus died in vain. They are not saved. Anyone who does not believe in once saved always saved are calling Jesus a liar. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. Most are trusting in what they do to save them selves and are not saved.

  32. Thank you David. I have to make a comment about your initial premise. You have said that the new Earth will only have perfected people in it, but to my understanding this is not true, here's why: Rev 21 here we see a new heaven and earth, polluted bad present one all burned away, new Jerusalem comes down, and God, Father God is now living with us as in a family situation, His real purpose for all of this. Then there is the description of new Jerusalem and that (verse 27) nothing shall enter it that is bad except those in the Lambs book of life, implying that there are bad apples around…but this is not the only place…go to Rev 22 , we see the river of life (in the new Heaven and new Earth) and there are the trees whose leaves are for the healing of the nations. If this is only for the perfect then healing is not needed.verse 5- There is always light in the city and we reign for ever and ever, but over whom….perfect people do not need rulers as ruling implies that judgments are made. Verse 14 talking about us that have the right to the tree of life and can enter the gates and outside in the new Earth are unclean people. So I have to say that No, we are not going to have a perfect world with only perfect people and that we are the sum total of God's children that will ever be.

  33. 1Cor. 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

  34. God is the same he changes not, therefore I do not believe that the Sabbath was cancelled in the favour of Sunday. This was done by the Roman Catholic Church! Mal. 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. Ex. 20:10 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
    Matt. 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

  35. As protestants kneel to Allah in Western Europe, they claim it is okay because they are saved and sin can't take them out of Jesus hands. When the communists ruled us the protestants quoted Romans 13 to support evil. They talk the talk endlessly but they didn't walk the walk. This is what we remember of protestants.

  36. King David wrote many psalms before he slept with bathsheba, and had her husband murdered .. Did he only get saved after he came back to the LORD for forgivness? Or was he already saved, and then sinned, and then came back to the LORD for forgivness

  37. The KJV is FULL of examples of once saved always saved:

    These are the proof texts I use to prove eternal security. John 5:24, John 6:37-39, John 10:27-30, Romans 8:1, Hebrews 13:5, 1 John 5:10-13

    Although the phrase "eternal security" does not occur in the Bible, phrases that are equivalent do occur. Phrases such as everlasting life, eternal life, eternal salvation, eternal inheritance, eternal redemption, etc. occur dozens and dozens of times throughout the Bible. Eternal security is not a separate doctrine from that of eternal life or eternal salvation. It is one and the same. In fact, the only salvation God offers to mankind is eternal. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life (John 3:16)." God does not offer probation, but He offers salvation. God does not offer a trial period, but rather, offers to completely save and give eternal life to anyone who responds to His invitation to trust Jesus Christ as his or her only hope of heaven.

  38. If you believe on Christ you are sealed until the day of redemption. We are saved from the second death, or perishing in hell fire by accepting the gift of salvation. This was the debt paid in blood by him on the cross for our sins forever. This means if you sin or live in sin, you will be chastened. Living in Christ comes from being born again by receiving the holy Spirit which comes by faith through hearing the Word of God. We will never achieve perfection because of our Adamic sin nature which we are born into, but we are to strive to be like him, repent from our old ways, ask for forgiveness daily, and be faithful unto death. The danger comes from believing in another Christ or gospel, or losing faith completely. That's what I get from it anyway..

  39. This guy is just like Satan, are you sure you are really saved? The majority Evangelical view is that once someone has accepted Christ as Saviour, they are guaranteed salvation. But is it safe to assume that once we are saved, we are saved for always? Just like Satan, Here is the answer to this question, Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God seals the new believer the second they come to Jesus, how long is this seal on the believer? Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. See it people? The day of REDEMPTION. I just answered this guys question. OSAS IS THE GOSPEL.

  40. You may not be alive to shout “ I am now once saved always saved , “ you may die , no guarantee of tomorrow . So sorry this is weak not even biblical

  41. The OSAS heresy (unbiblical) has resulted in the most hellish carelessness in Christianity in this day. I can find self-professing “Christians” by the hundreds who engage in the most worldly, sinful pursuits who think they have a no-fault insurance policy because of some “decision” they once made. It is a tragedy of epic proportions.

  42. I don’t believe in OSAS, but I must disagree with your definition of being saved! If that’s what God requires, the numbers saved are likely to only be in the tens; maybe, at a push, in the hundreds. How many people are truly perfect by the day they die?! What about those whose lives were cut short? Do none of them have any chance to go to Heaven? My dad was a Godly man who loved the Lord (despite my mother’s many complaints). He died at the age of 52. Must I just assume that he is in Hell?!

  43. You can be as charming as you want but that doesn’t change the fact that every single verse used was 100% out of context.

    Don’t be a preacher if you yourself don’t understand the actual context of scripture.

  44. Besides the many passages I originally posted here, I was asked specifically for "one" verse in the Bible that states someone lost their salvation. I'll give more than one for context's sake. Read 1 Timothy 5:11-15. Paul is speaking of young widows who left the security of the fold. They were indeed sealed unto the day of redemption had they continued in their faith, but they chose to stray away from it.

    Here's the quoted passage: " But refuse to enroll younger widows, for when their passions draw them away from Christ, they desire to marry and so incur condemnation for having abandoned their former faith. Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not. So I would have younger widows marry, bear children, manage their households, and give the adversary no occasion for slander. For some have already strayed after Satan."

    So do you believe the passage for what it says, or do you need to perform some type of Scriptural gymnastics to make it say something else? Does "away from Christ" really mean that? Did they really "abandon their former faith?" Did some of them really "stray after Satan" after they abandoned their previous faith and strayed from Christ?

    It can be hard to give up beliefs precious to us. I was taught OSAS growing up, and taught it myself for years as an adult believer. It was reading Scripture over and over that led me to question it. Though I was mad initially, I had to admit that Scripture taught me better than my Calvinistic teaching.

  45. I was backslidden for a time.Anger towards God because of my parents terminal illnesses Thank God,this Prodigal was allowed to return.If I had not returned ,I would be eternally lost.

  46. Osas is a deception,intended to lull Christians into complacency…this will separate u from His presence.. eternally..If God's presence,is not with u here, His fellowship,why do u think it will be with u eternally?

  47. Peter said to make your election and calling SURE.. examine yourselves. Don't rely on a prayer spoken at 10 yrs old. Please turn away from heresy

  48. Folks, witches, satanists are attempting o infiltrate charismatic, Pentecostal churches now. They don't concerning churches of no power, anointing,signs, wonders . On YouTube,I've seen this happen. Many examples. There have been some.on These discussion s of the heretical OSAS doctrine.. beware… Without fail,they promulgate the OSAS heresy.Not a life lived for Christ,one that is in a continual state of you believing, holiness,where noone will see God without it. When u question them,they will tell u ," don't worry.. everything is fine,no matter what". Why? Because the road to hell is paved by the antithesis of not living the Profession u claim… Holiness,right living ,honoring Christ,these words will light their fire of slander quickly.some use profanity,some accuse worse.. think on this…. Why does Satan want to advance OSAS? Think strongly…

  49. For all you people saying that hes preaching works is very wrong….keeping the faith and enduring to the end, finishing the race, not shipwrecking your faith isnt works……..trying to keep the 10 commandments to get to heaven is called works….wake up,
    Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.


  50. Turn from an attitude of sin folks. U will not see God without right living, Hebrews. Resist the heresy of sloppy agape osas it will destroy u please turn and consecrate your life to Christ. There are heretics here proclaiming that a prayer of confession will save apart from a life with no evidence.Lies. Jesus' said why do u say u love me,but don't do what I say? Jesus describes a heretic…an attitude that sin is ok,no problem,shows an un regenerated heart. Reject the apostasy living OSAS without HOLINESS. It is a damnable lie. OSAS heretics avoid the Hebrews admonition of living holy before the Lord,and without that,u will not see for Christ friends.i beg u

  51. Once again,why do witches,occultists, satanists advance the osas heresy where holiness isn't regarded when infiltrating churches? Why? Think on this friends?

  52. David Pawson often talks about "the universe". The Bible talks about the Earth and the fulness thereof. No universe, no "outer space", which are both satanic pipe dreams.

  53. Well my bible does not agree with what He says, so I will change a few words to agree with his false bible.

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that HE gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that WHOSOEVER, BELIEVETH in Him, should not perish, but have (TEMPORARY LIFE)

    John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH (TEMPORARY) LIFE.

    John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have (TEMPORARY) LIFE, and I will not raise him up on the last day.

    First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE (TEMPORARY LIFE).

    I have a lot more to change, but I hope your knew false version of the bible that says you can save yourself, and Jesus died in vain, meets with your approval.


  55. I have s question Abraham believed God it was imputed to him for rightousness or Holiness Paul says the law which was 430 years later can't dissanul that covenant so if Abraham sinned after recieving his imputed righteousness and I'm almost positive he did does that mean his gift of rightousness was forfieted galations says it wasnt soif that's true how is it you say if achristian sins thier rightousness is forfieted I will say that if someone who has professed to believe goes hog wild there's a good chance they we're never Reilly born again to begin with but in this case we know Abraham was rightous if he sinned was that forfieted

  56. So many "Christians" are being preached straight into Hell by well meaning "Biblical Scholars" who have twisted Scripture into their own interpretation.

  57. You, who think your salvation is some kind of a PROCESS, and think you have some merit in your salvation, instead of ONCE AND FOR ALL..

    How would you define salvation as being FREE, a gift of God? What does FREE mean to you?

    If salvation is NOT BY WORKS, as it is clear in the Bible… What are those works?

    What is that "simplicity of the gospel?"

  58. Very in depth sermon on salvation, I read a few so called Christians turning away from the bible to join Islam to be muslims.
    So does once save, always saved apply to them ? I believed David has answered my question With his sermon.

  59. Can a Christian lose their salvation? TRICK QUESTION! *You can not lose what

    you do not yet have!*

    The apostles Paul and Peter gave the correct perspective on salvation: *it is

    something we hope for, to be received in the future:*

    According to Paul, during this mortal life we have "the hope of salvation" and are

    "appointed . . . to obtain salvation":

    ⚫ "But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and

    love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

    For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus

    Christ" (Paul, in 1 Thessalonians 5:8,9; Paul did not tell them they were already


    Here's Peter, saying "shall be" saved – in the future:

    ⚫ "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved,

    even as they." (Acts 15: 11)

    In fact, Jesus tells us we must endure to the end to be saved:

    ⚫ "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the

    end shall be saved." (Matthew 10:22)

    We'll be saved – saved from ever perishing in death – when we actually receive the

    promised gift of eternal life at Jesus' return. Paul explained this in 1 Corinthians

    15:42-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. Short of receiving the gift of eternal life, we

    will surely perish in death, losing everything, very much unsaved!

    Salvation – eternal life – is a grace promised to us, to be received at Jesus'

    "revelation" or return:

    ⚫ "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life" (1 John 2:25)

    ⚫ "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the

    grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;" (1 Peter


    Justification and salvation are two different things, at different times:

    In this mortal life we may enter justification, but we will not be saved until we

    receive eternal life at Jesus' return.

    ⚫ "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath

    through him." (Paul, in Romans 5:9; another example of "shall be" saved.)

    "By his blood" a person may enter justification; "through him" that person shall be

    saved. "Through him" means through a relationship with Him. Remember Jesus'

    words about those who had preached in His name, and had "cast out devils," and

    had "done many wonderful works"? Jesus warned what he would say to them:

    ⚫ "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that

    work iniquity." (Matthew 7:23)

    Not only must we know Him: we must continue to abide in Him:

    ⚫ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men

    gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6)

    So, how do we enter justification? Through faith (Ephesians 2:8) that God exists

    and rewards (Hebrews 11:6) we may then choose to obey and "come to God"

    (Hebrews 11:6) on His terms: in repentance. For that we receive His promised


    ⚫ "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men

    every where to repent" (Acts 17:30)

    ⚫ "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh

    them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)

    So, what is the mercy promised in Proverbs 28:13? Our past sins will be blotted out:

    ⚫ "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that

    times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, NKJV).

    A believer – a person who through faith has come to God, confessing and forsaking

    sin – has been "purged from his old sins" (2 Peter 1:9). Believers have "remission of

    sins that are past" (Romans 3:25). They have redemption – by grace – from the

    death penalty they had earned for past sins:

    ⚫ "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus

    Christ our Lord" (Romans 6:23).

    Believers have been saved from hopelessness. They are no longer under

    condemnation, no longer under the death penalty already earned as the "wages" of

    their past sins. That redemption was made possible "by his blood" as we saw in

    Romans 5:9: Jesus made His death available to cover our death penalty.

    With past sins that separated us from God (Isaiah 59:1,2) erased, and no longer

    under condemnation, we enter justification, reconciled with God, no longer

    separated from God. Now we can begin a new life, "times of refreshing" in "the

    presence of the Lord" as we saw in Acts 3:19:

    ⚫ "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that

    times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, NKJV).

    And how are we in "the presence of the Lord"? Through the gift of the holy spirit,

    given to those who obey and come to God in repentance:

    ⚫ "And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom

    God hath given to them that obey him." (Acts 5:32)

    ⚫ "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the

    name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the

    Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)

    Through the holy spirit Jesus guides us out of slavery to sin and into His

    righteousness, overcoming slavery to sin. This is how we are made ready to receive

    the gift of eternal life and to inherit the Kingdom of God. Creation is not finished:

    sons and daughters for the Father's eternal family are being created, right now,

    through Jesus. He is the potter, we are the clay:

    ⚫ "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

    (Jesus, in Revelation 3:19)

    A relationship with Him

    ⚫ " . . . yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised

    thereby" (Hebrews 12:11).

    ⚫ "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be

    my son." (Revelation 21:7)

    We can not make the journey along the "narrow way" (Matthew 7:14) that leads to

    life without His help. And that journey can neither begin nor continue without our

    repentance, abiding in Him.

    Outside of repentance, we receive no mercy and no redemption; we will surely

    perish in death, paying our own death penalty. And outside of repentance, we can

    not be made ready to receive the gift of eternal life. For those reasons Jesus


    ⚫ " . . . except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:5)

    Peter makes it clear: we either come to repentance, or we perish:

    ⚫ "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but

    is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should

    come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9).

    Nothing about "faith alone" there! Jesus told His disciples to preach repentance

    and remission of sins, not "faith alone," not "faith + nothing = salvation"! (Luke


    We have free will, and it is possible for us to return to a life of sin, no longer in

    repentance and no longer abiding in Him. In that case, we have "fallen away" from

    justification, no longer on the "narrow way" that leads to life. We've chosen sin, not


    That's why the apostles gave all those warnings not to "fall away" and not to "fail

    of the grace of God." To "give diligence to make your calling and election sure" (2

    Peter 1:10,11). To "continue in his goodness" or else be "cut off" (Romans 11:19–


    ⚫ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of

    you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1)

    Here is a list of similar verses:

    ⚫ 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 Paul understood he could possibly return to sin and be a


    ⚫ 2 Peter 2:20-22 Even after knowing Him it is possible to return to a life of sin,

    and end up worse than before

    ⚫ Hebrews 10:26,27 If we return to a life of sin . . .

    ⚫ Hebrews 6:4-6 We can "fall away" even after receiving the holy spirit

    ⚫ Hebrews 12:14,15 We can "fail of the grace of God"

    ⚫ Revelation 3:5 and 22:19 Our names CAN be blotted out of the book of life

    ⚫ Hebrews 3:12-14 "if"

    ⚫ Colossians 1:21-23 "if"

    ⚫ Romans 8:13,14 "if"

    ⚫ Luke 12:45,46 Jesus warned what would happen to servants who returned to sin

    ⚫ John 15:6 Jesus warned what would happen to those who fail to abide in Him

  60. If you are searching scripture and worried that you might have lost your salvation after years of backsliding. Is it the Holy Spirit trying to reach out? What I’m trying to ask: If your heart is harden you will not care or worry but if your trembling in fear that to me means you still have time. Is this correct ?

  61. Well he got one thing right. “ The majority of evangelicals do not believe this” That is because they heard the other side. I have been in a lot of churches in my life of 60 years and the most dedicated believers I know teach eternal security and I believe it is because their motive is love for the LORD rather than fear of losing their salvation.

  62. I've never received an answer on why osas heretics reject the power of Holy Ghost concerning the works and gifts of God,thus blasoheming Him? Mark 16 says that signs, proof,will accompany ,be with those ,who believe ( trusting,loving obeying). As stated repeatedly,one heresy births another. My father was a pastor too. He slipped on ice on the steps of the church. He broke both forearm bones severely,as one was trying to stick thru the skin. My dad said to the members helping him up this." We know God can heal as He never changes,what He did for others,He can do now.They prayed asking the Lord to heal .Their hands were over his arm ,and suddenly ,the bones popped back in place ,completely restored to normal function. Why did that happen as Mark 16 says it will? It happened because they believed( trusting, loving obeying) God's Word. The proof accompanied them as Christ said in Mark. God heald many times from sheer mercy to doubters,as we see the man who said he believed,but help his unbelief,to Christ. He will not move His mighty hand to heretics who blaspheme Him by denying holiness,and the very Spirit who convicts. This describes the OSAS latter day Apostasy that destroys.

  63. Osas heretiics,still waiting for u to explain why the works of Holy Ghost are absent in your life,when Christ said they will live with u if you're a true believer in Mark 16. To those who love Christ ,we know the answer on that one.Dont blaspheme the Lord's Spirit ,although your vile hearts will anyway.Sad.

  64. Mark 16:17 still says that Christ said certain works, signs,evidence will accompany,live in the lives of true believers, not those with mere head knowledge ,but true believers( living,loving,trusting,obeying,present perfect tense). Why are they absent in osas hetetics lives? Cessation heresy? False,demonic. Same Holy Ghost then,who works now in true believers. So examine what u " believe". Screaming faith faith as James2 compared that to demons head knowledge. Obedience is always part of believers,true believers. Merely talking about faith with no evidence is not the true believer,it's the true false convert. To the churches of heresy u attend here who tell u that a prayer at 10 saves,from a life of no evidence, sin condoning, they're lying to u Some in good intentions,some from stupidity,some from pastoral false converts. Some here have condemned their own souls by blaspheming Holy Ghost s works ,calling them satanic . This rage arises from a false conversion against Christ, not a conversion in Christ. Cessation,and/ or blasphemous attribution of Spirits deeds to demons instead of holy Spirits,are the standard osas heretical deniers ploys. Joshua said for all to choose today whom u will serve. Clear, simple choice. Head knowledge as demons have in James2 ,won't serve the Lord. Those who make their lives a living sacrifice is their reasonable service,will.To be known by God, is to have an intimate relationship with Him. To scream faith faith with no evidence,condoning sin,is to merely know who He is,as demons merely know who He is. Christ said if y remain in Him,He will remain in u. Don't live as a Prodigal,remaining dead,lost. Return to God ,He will return to u.

  65. Dear God,the osas heretics who refuse holiness are drinking caffeine today,possibly something else as well .They're posting like teenage social media addicts with no future,but drama. Osas heretics are inherently nervous and angry. Heresy has a very telling effect in the soul.

  66. Question for all of you OSAS believer. Supposing a man, who "believes" in the Lord Jesus Christ, is regularly sexually molesting his own daughter. Does he have to repent to go to heaven or is he on his way to heaven, as he is?

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